Hooray! We Actually Have Something To Talk About!
Podcasts August 27th, 2007It’s week 1 of the college football season and the fellas leave no stone unturned. BMo and TD check the line for every game on the board, and with a little help from their friends at Don Best, try to find a winning angle.
Additional topics include Vick’s plea deal, the Mariners and D-Backs keep winning, Brian’s lessons learned from betting baseball, and the Godfather’s locks for week one. I do not look like a big headed buffoon who made a living acting like a retard!
Email: Brian Mollica brian@notiowa.com and Tommy Dutch tom@notiowa.com Give us a call 206-203-Iowa
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August 27th, 2007 at 11:43 am
Can i just say its gone 04:30 still drinking , had way more to drink than that night and am fine. Strange then what happened to me and rich . If you want to play it fair am up for a rematch. Fyregirl am so sorry i didn’t get a good chance to talk to you.
August 27th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Fyregirl, sorry for referring to ‘your’ Tommy as an ugly brad pitt relative, i’ll know better in the future. Yes, i am a ugly cousin (actually a very ugly one, the one babies are scared of!). The name comes from my Australian Rugby League team, The Sydney Roosters.
Brian, i thought you’d take that as a compliment. To be a ‘5 tool’ comedian you need to have the look !
Joe, Once the bubble burst against the titans, that was it. They were very average on saturday night against the panthers.
August 27th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
I am glad to know that you all had so much fun at the meet up that people are still looking for a rematch….
August 27th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
hey whit good to hear from you. i think everyone did themselves proud and no matter what happened, the amount of alcohol consumed by all was quite impressive.
i am certainly up for meeting with you guys again for a few drinks. let me know if you guys plan anything.
August 27th, 2007 at 3:30 pm
okay, so it is 8 am here in vegas and this is only the 2nd time i have gotten up this early since moving here. why you ask? (or don’t and i am going to tell you anyway)
there is a 2 day football handicapping seminar sponsored by VegasInsider.com at Red Rock today that should be very interesting. Topics for today include:
Meet the Oddsmakers
Shopping for the Right Line & Money Management
Identifying Handicapping Football Systems
Betting Pro & College Football Totals
College Football Forecast
I let you all know if i find out anything really interesting.
August 27th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
Looking forward to hearing about the seminar. I told the Godfather about it yesterday and his exact words were, “Sorry, I’m not available to speak”. I love that guy.
August 27th, 2007 at 7:17 pm
Mofobes: Life is all about learning isn’t it?
I’ll post my plays for my two homeland college teams this season.
Week #1 Iowa and Iowa State will both cover.
Record: 0.0.0
August 27th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
Yo BMO. Humiliation Bet Time baby.
You wanna put your proverbial money where your mouth is? I’ll take my Seattle Mariners vs your New York Yank-Mes in a playoff bet. The bet is basically that one of our teams makes the playoffs and the other does not, one guy wins. In the off chances that the Red Sox or the Angels totally shits the bed and both the M’s and Yanks make it…it’s a push.
I haven’t completely thought of a punishment, but I have a couple of ideas and I’m open to suggestions from you or the audience.
One option would be having to purchase a ticket and physically suffer thru the entire performace of Carrot-top’s show. I think I’m heading back to Vegas in November, but I don’t plan on losing.
Another option I call this too much of a good thing. You mentioned KFC today. I love KFC. I say that the loser has to purchase a KFC famous bowl and eat one for EVERY game that the other team stays in the playoffs. Not too bad if they get swept 3-0, but a couple of 5 game series and the grinding thru another famous bowl could be pretty painful.
You up for it you PUSSY? Just kidding man. I’m open to other humilations if anybody has a thought.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
Hey guys.
Lots of good college info today. Maybe you could talk a little sometime on the concept of “middling”. What it is and when you could attempt to pull it off. I thought about it today when you mentioned that the LSU line had moved quite a bit today.
August 27th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
so good to hear from the 406, if only Fennville would resurface
August 27th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
Hey I got another fantasy league set up that everybody should get involved with and enjoy. It’s from The Onion and the twist is that you try and pick from a bunch of superstars which guys will perform the WORST. You basically try and pick a bunch of chumps. I think you can pick once and basically let your team ride for the season as well. Free. Supereasy. Funny twist. Get in there.
http://fantasysports.theonion.com/?utm_source=off2007_home_0
League Name: Festival of Agony
Password: Donkey
August 28th, 2007 at 12:15 am
patch,
My feeling is that middling is strictly a mathematical play. Points and half points have a certain value (there are databases available that assign an approximate value to each number). If the middle numbers add up to more than a 10% edge, assuming -110 juice for both sides of your middle, the play has a positive expectation.
An example of a game I played this year with the intention of middling, is a bet on UCLA +16 vs. USC. I played it for a much larger number than I normally would place on a game, with the expectation that I can buy some or all of it back at a later date. Hopefullly, UCLA will have a great year and USC will stumble a bit, and I will have a huge middle opportunity. The last I checked, the game had dropped to 14 so even that number would be a pretty good middle.
I also play some middles for entertainment value, gives the possiblity of a big win for a small risk.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:46 am
I’m always down for a good humiliation bet, but a Carrottop show is both cruel and unusual. I wonder which is worse, the physical damage I would do to myself eating the KFC, or the mental/emotional damage of Carrottop. Either way, I’m in.
August 28th, 2007 at 12:51 am
Here’s another link the the fantasy league:
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/521289
password: vegas
August 28th, 2007 at 12:56 am
Hey Patch - welcome to the board! I signed up for your fantasy league. You might want to change your name - there’s another really popular guy around here who has all of his posts read on air by Tommy and his name is Patch somethingorother as well.
Brad - I’m in your league as well - and heading off to figure out how to join jimmymacs.
August 28th, 2007 at 1:02 am
Ok - anyone know how to actually sign up for Jimmymacs Pickem league???
August 28th, 2007 at 2:32 am
A link to the jimmymac pickem league is on post #4 of the “Wild Cunt Race” episode.
August 28th, 2007 at 2:58 am
I am just returning to the boards after a week or so under water for various reasons. The meet up stories were great. Mark me down as jealous to have missed it all. Hopefully I will be in a position to be there next time the stars align. Thanks to Train and JimmyMac for the Pictures.
August 28th, 2007 at 3:08 am
For my picks this week I am opting for the ‘Tommy Dutch Belly Buster Parlay’ taking his theory ‘alumni pleasing’ dictates the margin in lopsided tilts.
USC -44.5 over Idaho
OK -40.5 over North Texas
PENN ST -38.5 over Visable Changes University (or whoever)
Texas -38 over Ark State
I’d bet the parlay in Vegas, but will go individual games here for ease of tracking.
College Record 0-0-0 (probable season high point)
August 28th, 2007 at 3:12 am
JimmyMac, Steve in WP,
What is up with our Cyclones? Only 3.5 over Kent State? (no comments out of you on this one post please Hawkeye Brad).
August 28th, 2007 at 3:16 am
where you @ fobes?
August 28th, 2007 at 3:32 am
Brad, I signed up for the Fantasy League. Very easy. Thanks for coordinating.
August 28th, 2007 at 5:08 am
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/venice-of-the-far-east/2007/08/28/1188067074506.html
At first glance the picture looks like Vegas but its Macau. Will be interestig to see if they can replicate “Vegas” in Macau and be successful.
On a side note, 11wks 6 days to go before YoTime Joe and I arrive for TAICON No. 2!
August 28th, 2007 at 5:49 am
Fyregirl, sorry for referring to ‘your’ Tommy as an ugly brad pitt relative, i’ll know better in the future. Yes, i am a ugly cousin (actually the very ugly one, the one babies are scared of!). The name comes from my Australian Rugby League team, The Sydney Roosters.
Brian, i thought you’d take that as a compliment. To be a ‘5 tool’ comedian you need to have the look !
Joe, Once the bubble burst against the titans, that was it. They were very average on saturday night against the panthers.
August 28th, 2007 at 5:52 am
about fucking time!! i tried to put that post up 24hrs ago, anybody else have troubles posting ??
August 28th, 2007 at 7:31 am
Roosterman - shouldn’t speak about yourself like that. titans game was a big disappointment. having no troubles posting at the moment but i may soon encounter some. work is taking our access away from connceting to websites. all online gambling sites are now blocked. if they block this site i may have to get a laptop for home. i think i will charge this back to TAI??
August 28th, 2007 at 7:56 am
fyregirl, i was the Football handicapping seminar all day, then played at the $75 PLO Tournament at Caesars (WOW, i finally cashed in a tourney, I forgot how to win - ended up finishing 3 in it.)
the seminar was awesome, i learned a lot for a beginner & there were a lot of pros there too. it felt like college again as i took nine pages of notes. they are broadcasting it live and have the archived audio files online if anyone is interested.
http://www.vegasinsider.com/radio/vi/
combine this with TD, B-Mo, and Don Best & i think you could make some money.
tomorrow’s schedule is:
Betting Football Futures/Win Totals
Meet the Media
Statistical Analysis w/ Professor Ed Meyer
NFL Breakdown
August 28th, 2007 at 8:02 am
son of a bitch—-Tigers 16 Yankee’s 0!
August 28th, 2007 at 8:56 am
YoTime - if work bans us from betting sites can you tell the powers that be I won’t be back to work on Friday…SHIT!
August 28th, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Roosterman - I have not had trouble posting recently. However I had in the past and I think anytime there is an accidental change to the name (example an extra space at the end) it may go through moderation as a new poster. Then again, I’m not sure what the hell I am talking about…
August 28th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
YoTimeJoe
Regarding your access - im working in a UK Gov dept and our access is limited as well… pretty much all gambling sites are out…. but i still get access to this one - so you just never know.
On another note - i’m back at work today after hammering through a 3 day weekend including a rooftop bbq in Brixton whic included some dodgy dealings with a wannabe gangsta dealer guy outside the tube station we were drunkenly stumbling into late in the evening (Brixton is a notoriously ‘interesting and mixed race’ London area for those that were wondering) and the Notting Hill carnival. Never eaten so much goddamn Jerk Chicken or drank so much Red Stripe since 2000 when I last attended the carnival. Guess at least i wasnt one of the unlucky stabbing victims….
August 28th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
Guys Please let me know if your post don’t show up by emailing me at podcast@notiowa.com The chances are it is the system making the mistake and not you. I’m trying to train the system as it goes and thats why roosterman has the same post 4 times.
August 28th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Unreal podcast- I loved this sports episode, very good stuff!
RE-TAICON1-the meet up-(Ace I think 9/10)! It sounded hilarious (what really happened in the Cabaña?) & I can only wish I were there.
But just quietly….It sounded a great night was had & I’m one jealous TAI fan.
I’m glad Whit is OK. (Spiked drink! Wonder what with? Richie any ideas?)
I know that Dutch is an A1 drinker, he kept up with YoTimeJoe & MoFoboes. But BMo! Buddy well done! A 10 drink session is something I think you should take advantage of more often, cos’ when BMo Jr arrives there is no chance (unless you can teach him/her to play poker very early on).
Trainfan/Jimmymac - great pics!
August 28th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
pmac, Ace, English Bob,Other UKers,
Has anyone been to the new Empire Casino Liecester Square? I will probably be in London this fall and hope to get in some poker there if it works out.
August 28th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Slash - haven’t been there yet. I dont know how keen I am to go though. From what I have read I dont think its meant to be the greatest poker set up in the world by a long shot. In fact I believe they are runbing the WSOP Europe main event days at different locations due to the small poker setup. I also pretty much do what I can to avoid Leicester Sq as its tourist heaven and inflated prices on everything….
There are a few other places around London to play that I have checked out (The Vic, the Gutshot)- Id be happy to join you for a night out playing if you want or a night out drinking or whatever really - im always up for something and there is always something to do in London!!!
Let me know when your gonna be in town.
August 28th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
Thanks pmac. I may take you up on that if my plans firm up. I am pretty familar with London in general having travelled there many times, but I have never played poker there.
August 28th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
hawkeye,
The link that you posted for fantasy doesn’t work, can you repost it, i would like to join.
yzerman
August 28th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Tough break for the Aussies. As I mentioned on the show, I single handedly ruined internet access for the entire company at my last job. If it turns out too much TAI posting contributed to the ban you have to let us know. It would look great on the resume.
Thanks for the drinking kudos Dipper. Definitely not something I can handle often anymore (what with the one kidney and all), but it’s fun every now and then. Might be fully recovered in November when the boys from the OZ visit again.
August 28th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
Slashdog:
I’ll actually be in Ames for the Cyclone opener. I think that the low over of 3.5 is due to the fact that Vegas handicappers don’t spend too much time following them. They’ve got a new coach (Chizek) from Texas, so I am anticipating some Texas style football playing… not that lame ass play calling from their former Big Ten washout coach (McCarney).
August 28th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Thanks Steve WP. I look forward to your report of opening weekend.
August 28th, 2007 at 7:17 pm
Yzerman,
The link worked for me, but try just going to this:
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/
Ours is a free, custom league.
League ID: 521289
Password: Vegas
Let me know if you still can’t find it.
Everyone: We still 6 signed up, with 6 openings left. If you want in, sign up soon so we can have the draft!
August 28th, 2007 at 7:29 pm
Hooray I actually have nothing to talk about.
Really, I have not even heard the show yet although I have listened to shows 59 through 62 so catching up.
Slashdog I live quite a way from London and although I used to live there I have never been in a London Casino I dont think I would feel comfortable. I like the casual approach in Vegas.
I probably could not even afford to gamble in London and as a city i just get pissed off at the cost as I just think what I could get in Vegas for the same money ( even the shitty hotels in London are gonna cost $200 a night!).
London is wayyyyyyy overrated New York owns London. New York is a 9 to Londons 6
August 28th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
London has its moments - but it is overpriced (unless you know where to go for cheap stuff like booze). I’m basically using it as the best place for me to earn pounds and a base to travel from
August 28th, 2007 at 7:51 pm
Fennville is back!
Great to hear the show. I have been busting my ass putting http://chargerblue.com together. If you degenerates need a D2 team to root for, I have a great up and comer. Check out the site.
August 28th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Fennville!! I thought you were dead.
August 28th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Nice Looking site Fenn - how do you like working with iWeb?
August 28th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
Hawkeye are you planning a live or auto draft?
August 28th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
Fennville:
Hillside will own Gannon on the first!
August 28th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Hi everyone. Thought I’d jump on the boards now that I’m caught up on listening to the shows. BMo, I’m glad you made the change from MSR. The time resrictions they put on you really hindered the full enjoyment of meaningless rants that made no sense.
Thanks everyone and remeber, seatbelts save lives, condoms prevent them. (A lesson that Brian has failed to learn)
August 28th, 2007 at 11:35 pm
Ace - I know what you mean about NY & London. every time i hit london i always wonder why i bothered in the 1st place. it has to be the most expensive place to visit in the world.
Brian - i can’t say that all the posting caused them to investigate which sites we were logging on to but the ban did happen the day after all the post Sat PM Vegas time.
pmac - i can only hope the powers that be don’t check the site out cause i think they will put it on the band list if they listen to either the wed or fri shows.
August 28th, 2007 at 11:45 pm
Thanks Hawkeye, i’m in.
yzerman
August 28th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
Although I agree London is outlandishly expensive, I feel compeled to defend it a bit. I actually love it. As pmac pointed out there is always a ton to do there, great places (some of which take some work to find or access). However it is a little bit of a victim of its own hipness. I have probably spent collectively over a year there and it remains my favorite city. However, I must admit to being on company expense and always staying in the heart of the West End.
pmac, I am a bit disappointed because I was about to pass on a great pub recommendation. One owned by an Australian ex-pat in Kensington, I still have his card somewhere. It was a bit of a dump called Settle Down Pub, but it was a blast. Spent a long night there drinking after hours with the staff one time. Unfortunately, after some research I found out that some time in the past couple of years it was sold and converted to yet another overpriced members only ultralounge called Amika. Crap.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:30 am
TF,
iWeb creates big, bulky webpages but the effects can be stunning. The new iLife 08 lets you enter your own code in spots to tie in feeds and other web 2.0 aspects.
Macs rule.
Steve,
It’s Hillsdale and yeah, the chargerblue.com hotel and casino has the line at Hillsdale -13.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:37 am
Tommy, I made it to the surface. We bought one of those cheap 12 foot by 36 inch pools and I have been at the bottom since Aug. 1. Too much summer to squeeze in before D-day next Tuesday. Mackinac, South Haven, and 2 trips to the new Four Winds Casino in New Buffalo where I am up a whopping 28 bucks. They have this fancy ballyhooed poker room with all automated tables and no dealers…thing is nobody likes playing them much. Blue Chip, a few miles away still has lots of guys playing but 4 winds room has been a ghost town both visits. If you wanna play that way, play full tilt.
August 29th, 2007 at 7:52 am
Oh well big brother is putting the squeeze on a little more. We are blocked from the Don Best site as well. Sorry Tommy but your hits on your stories will take a hammering now.
August 29th, 2007 at 8:08 am
Slash,
Poker’s not really my game I’ve played at the London Club a few times, but I don’t have enough experience to say if it’s good or not. However, I work with a couple of Americans who play when they come over and they tell me thet favour the Grovesnor clubs.
August 29th, 2007 at 9:13 am
Thanks Tony, I thought I was doing something wrong.
August 29th, 2007 at 10:58 am
Slashdog - thanks for the thought hahaha I know what you mean about the traditional dingy old school pubs (my scene) being converted to the hip, metrosexual, members-only faux-gay bar joints (def not my scene)… it sux..
Gimme a small cosy local pub that serves cold pints and good conversation any day….
August 29th, 2007 at 12:02 pm
What’s doing with the poll question. Where’s Sydney?
August 29th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
Sydney my ass, if it was going to be any Australian city on that list it would be Melbourne… Ahh the list is so long why Melbourne is better I’m not even going to start… MCG, Telstra Dome, the Crown pokeroom…
August 29th, 2007 at 12:33 pm
What about the SCG, Telstra Stadium (The Olympic Stadium) and well lets not mention Star City Casino, The Opera House, Sydney Harbour Bridge and the worlds best HArbour! but hey next month we have the APEC meeting….which is only going to shut down this fine city.
August 29th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
JR - we don’t need to respond to silly remarks!!
August 29th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
Entertaining show as always guys. Sadly sport is not my thing, but it made the drive to work more fun than listening to the BBC shipping forecast.
Looking forward to the non-sports shows!
Love, Hugs and kisses, Mungus.